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    i been living here for 20 years and i love it...i have seen a couple shootings and dead bodies in the corner of my block there was a murder in the house across the street from me it was bad but now not so much there is shootings but not at random people everyone is respectful to each other and nobody messes with u if you dont mess with them but havnt had any problems..i love it

    — meee
    October 9, 2011 at 12:40 p.m.

    I moved here from Philadelphia.

    I love this neighborhood.

    — Lynn
    September 6, 2011 at 10:01 p.m.

    I lived there 70-76 as I went to Vermont Avenue School. Not a great place to grow up as a kid. Saw my first knife fight and drive by shooting was a was 10. I go by the old house on 24th and Normandie once in a blue moon. It looks shabby. The homes are wonderful though. Lots of character, not like the new suburban homes that are being built now. Which I could take my family's old home and move it to Malibu or Santa Monica. Turn $300K into $1.3 million.

    — Juan
    July 25, 2011 at 1:22 p.m.

    I live in an apartment in this neighborhood. i love it, it's huge, big rooms, my own washer and dryer in the apt, and a big front and back yard. I have lived in this neighborhood since 1995. The atmosphere is family orientated and the neighbors are nice. Only thing is that if you have a teenager like me, then this location is prime picking for them to get into trouble. So after living here in peace and serenity, my teenager is forcing me to re-access this neighborhood and move to another. Maybe one that is more teen friendly. I hate to leave my beautiful apartment but all good things much come to an end and hopefully the future that me and the kids will unfold will be just as good as the experience I've had living in this neighborhood.

    — nO cOMLAINTs
    May 24, 2011 at 1:26 p.m.

    Its funny how many people move from out of state into areas like these and then complain....complain......and complain some more about how they feel unsafe in LA. Obviously these folks didnt do much research before moving into an area such as this! the area is beautiful as most run down parts of LA are. Yes there are gangsters, strippers, drug dealers etc. Hello, these are rampant all over Los Angeles County!!

    — GetAClue!!
    March 18, 2011 at 12:39 p.m.

    i've lived in the general south central area for sometime. (1995ish).

    i am a young hispanic woman and thankfully have not come across any more danger in this part of town than i would have in hollywood or echo park.

    as for the "group of young males" that hang around this area, they are more often times than none "fixie crews" which go on rides and are non-criminal.

    there are the handful of bums around but it's la ppl!

    the overall neighborhood is family oriented.

    highly black and hispanic but there are definitely a number of caucasias who have been moving to this part of town in the last couple of years.

    the small convenient store are generally safe, i don't so much understand the previous comments about "being scared to be shot" there is deff worse out there folks!

    if you are gonna come in to this neighborhood w paranoia you will leave it w paranoia.

    if you come in optimistic, it will be good to you.

    lot's of new things happening! new laundry mats and such.

    — karen
    February 17, 2011 at 3:11 p.m.

    I have lived in this area, since 1957. And I have to say, being a Baby Boomer; I love it here! For over 53 years, this is home to me. Sure, things have changed; whether it's for the worse or for the better.

    The homes over here are huge! And you get more home for your buck as well. I live in a home that's free and clear; which gives me the carte blanche of being single and free! How many of us; here in this barrio, have that opportunity? Very slim or perhaps none.

    Now, some of the pessimism of living here in this area is the age of the home I reside in. I live in a home that was built in 1897, and the repairs are endless; as well as the up grades.

    Nevertheless, I've managed to overcome all the challenges I face each day, living within this antique dwelling. Yes, this neighborhood is in a low income area, but that doesn't mean I'm one of them. Never judge a book by its cover.

    Crime in this neighborhood is better than most; but, not as good as some. Since I grew up in this part of town, I've learned how to be an esoteric streetwise person; in order to avoid any type of catastrophe I may encounter. It's like being in the military: You adapt and overcome.

    You do what you have to do, in order to survive. Remember Darwin's Theory? Yes, fight crime; shoot a criminal! Always have and always will believe in the Second Amendment.

    Yes, schools determine the type of neighborhood we live in; as a result of the demographics which are based on the property tax. And so far, the local public schools are a fiasco; and they are at the bottom of the barrel, especially in this area.

    Don't scapegoat the homeowners; we pay enough property taxes; and enough is enough! As you can see, it's not a very good area to raise kids.

    However, because my parents stress the importance of education--I've managed to obtained an elite erudition. So, here I am today, still in the area I grew up in. I had never believed in Cesar Chavez' cliche--"Sal Si Puedes."

    All in all, this is my hood and I love it each day! Yes, I'm being redundant; but besides my backyard, where can you find 13 different varieties of fruit trees growing in your backyard here in this area and a vegetable patch to top things off?

    Slim to none perhaps. By the way, I have a huge dog to keep human squirrels away in order to protect what's growing. Yes, size does matter! Life is good! Ciao~

    — Candorguy
    March 24, 2010 at 1:54 a.m.

    I have lived here for 30+ years and love my neighborhood. Crime is inevitable in the world. Get to know your neighbors, walk to places and you'll have a different appreciation for this neighborhood.

    — Patricia
    January 27, 2010 at 12:38 p.m.

    This area is terrible. I fear for my life everytime I leave and I do not leave once it gets dark outside. there is graffiti on every wall and the alleys are like a off road deserts! Every morning I wish for a better environment the people do not care about the neighborhood.

    — Celine
    January 19, 2010 at 4:31 p.m.

    I have lived in this area for about ten years now,and unfortunately the area is going down. On the corner of Western & 30th you have hookers now. The noise is unbearable if you want to take an afternoon nap. I personally have fixed over 20 feral cats, and continue to do so to help control the overpopulation. But if pet owners were responsible and spay and neuter their cats it would help.

    — Beth
    December 10, 2009 at 11:45 a.m.

    My husband and I moved here June '08 so he can do a two year master's program at USC. What a mistake we made. This neighborhood is horrible. Constant helicopters and all sorts of noise from loud music to ice cream/nacho trucks to tamale lady to ice cream/corn cart horns to the roosters in the morning. Dozens of stray cats everywhere too. People just let their dogs go poop anywhere including our front lawn. The streets are filed with filth and I just don't feel safe. I don't know if they are local gangs or what but there are groups of young men just hanging out on some streets just staring you down. Only supermarket I can shop at without feeling like I'm gona get shot is Ralphs and that is breaking the bank. I hate it here and am counting down the days until we move.

    — Judy
    October 15, 2009 at 3 p.m.

    I've lived in a big house on busy busy Normandie for 3 years now. It's a hundred year old house that required a ton of work before I moved into it. Looks great now, but with the decline in value, I could never sell and break even at this point. As far as the location -- couldn't be better. 3 minutes to the 10 freeway, 10 minutes to Staples and Downtown. 20 minutes to Hollywood. South LA has some very interesting areas as well worth exploring. Biggest complaint, the drug addicts and dealers and gangs and their complete lack of respect for others as well as themselves. And the street noise is a close second. Gang unit is here at least twice a month. The LAPD does what it can but the constant sounds of traffic on Normandie, helicopters, police and fire trucks, is getting very old. Will eventually have to move, won't be happy about leaving my big old house but will at some point want and need some peace and quiet!

    — Haystein
    September 15, 2009 at 10:06 a.m.

    I'm looking to buy in this (West Adams) neighborhood, great value for the square footage and convenient city access. I love the Victorians, this was really a top-of-the-line area when built. Some streets would look like movie sets if more people fixed them up. Streets are spotty, and the "education level" graphs above are surprising this close to USC, but as the kids and rental population get a little older, that will change. I hope.

    Agreed that this is not an area to invest in a flip. But with a great street full of beautiful homes, better involved neighbors/owners, and more emphasis on education... I'm hoping to find a nice long-term home! Thanks Rob and David for encouragement. LAPD crime maps look relatively safe compared to adjacent areas.

    — Kelly H
    September 12, 2009 at 12:53 p.m.

    My wife and I just bought a beautiful house in the area. We were renting a house in Silver Lake and now have a house that is twice the size and half the price of anything we could have gotten there!

    — Rob
    August 17, 2009 at 11:05 a.m.

    I grew up in this area,on 24th and Catalina.It has changed dramatically over the years.My parents moved there in 1969.I saw it go from black to hispanic and now USC is trying to buy it all up for students.Downsides are few,only the neighborhood barrio or gang called Harpys.This area was at one time very nice,but that was along time ago.I will always remember the drug store on the corner of 24th and Vermont.Miss Orjeda worked there and gave us treats and stuff,it had an old fashion soda fountain,thats what made it unique.

    — sal gutierrez
    August 14, 2009 at 2:10 p.m.

    I have lived in this neighborhood for 17 years. This area has some of the best Craftsman and Victorian home stock in Los Angeles. It's one of the few places in the city where you can still get a lot of house for your money. The neighborhood is ripe for improvement and gentrification, while still retaining the charm of diversity. However, it could also easily go the other way. If the city would only enforce some basic quality-of-life laws in the neighborhood, it could easily be one of the most convenient and lovely neighborhoods in the city. I'm hoping some progressive buyers, not afraid of restoring some of these glorious homes to their original charm will take a look at this neighborhood, soon.

    — David
    August 13, 2009 at 5:33 p.m.

    Adams-Normandie

    is a neighborhood in the city of Los Angeles in the South L.A. region of Los Angeles County.
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