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Walking instead of driving to restaurants, the Grove, etc.
Don't know why Danielle has a beef about my neighborhood and its so-called "cookie-cutter apartments". I've lived in the Miracle Mile area for 14 years now in a rental apartment built around 1930 which has a lot of character. Each apartment in my building is unique in its layout. There are no modern apartment buildings on my block and maybe about seven in a six-block area. It's a wonderful, diverse neighborhood; if you own a dog you are bound to make friends with your fellow dog-walking neighbors. It's also central to so much of Los Angeles. We plan on staying in the Miracle Mile for a long time.
I recently moved out of West Hollywood and bought a house in the Miracle Mile area. I love the Miracle Mile, which I agree should be called out as its own separate neighborhood. I live within a walking distance from LACMA, Umami Burger, The Tar Pits, ...etc. My neighbors are friendly and watch out for each other. This truly is one of the best places to live in LA.
The Grove/Farmers Market, Park La Brea, Museum Row, Miracle Mile. What a great place to live: so diverse, friendly, world-class museums, great food, famous Irish bars, entertainment, shopping, gyms, center of the city. And one can walk everywhere!
The Tar Pits was donated to the city and was a Part of the original Hancock Park.
And the Miracle Mile Should Be It's own Neighborhood
Simply because of its history if not for the fact that it is a neighborhood of homes and not apartments, Condos or even Duplex's (the exception of one Street with Duplexes) MMRA
Why on earth is the LA Times lumping Miracle Mile into Mid Wilshire? The Miracle Mile IS a neighborhood! Locals don't refer to it as Mid Wilshire.
If you are going to break out wee little Carthay and Larchmont, how can you ignore the Miracle Mile -- historically an important area that spans a much larger area?
I moved here about a year ago from Santa Cruz, CA.(go slugs!) to pursue a job at E! Ent. I found what I thought to be a great little apt. in the Miracle Mile area, close to work, museums and shopping. Unfortunately I didn't realize living across the street from a park(turns out to be a tar pit) would result in monthly if not weekly power outages in my building. Adding to the stress of my 50+ hours a week of work is the fact that the supermarkets in the area are horrible, the produce is sub-par, the lines oh the lines, I think last week everyone in LA was at the Ralph's on Wilsire, because I was in line for almost an hour! But why even go when Luna Park is soooo delicious.
Anyways the reason I'm here is to warn of a person(he was covering his face) who robbed me with a knife, knocked me to the ground and took my purse which had everything in it including: my puppy belle:( It was on the cornrer of 6th and Masselin, the police said there's really nothing they can do since I didn't get a good look at him. So be careful out there!
In my opinion, Mid-Wilshire is the true "center" of Los Angeles. Ethnic, religion, socio-economic, political, it all comes to a crossroads here. Beverly Hills to the west, African-American to the south, Koreatown to the east, Hispanic and White everywhere, Orthodox Jewish up and down La Brea, Catholics and Protestants, high- and low- rent apartments, homes, condos, liberals everywhere, business, art, dining. I'm proud to call Mid-Wilshire (Miracle Mile, specifically) my home.
As a relative newcomer to the Mid-Wilshire area, maybe my fresh eyes are different, but to me the Park La Brea area is more similar to Mid-Wilshire than Fairfax. Fairfax feels more like a city neighborhood while Park La Brea and Mid-Wilshire are almost a suburb inside the city. I think Mid-Wilshire is a lot prettier than Fairfax, personally.
A lot of these areas overlap, friends. The names are only abstractions, and some like CBS Television City aren't actual neighborhoods at all.
But man, this is a great area. I wish I could have seen it new in the 1930s. My first job after grad school in 1973 was 3960 Wilshire, just east of Fairfax. Across from the tiny Peking Palace. Remember the big Merrill-Lynch office? The Wiltern Theater was not as active then as it is now. The Red Pepper restaurant had gorgeous waitresses.
Anyone from Carthay Circle here, past or present?
People who live in Park La Brea, get off your high horse. I've seen those cookie cutter apts/condos, whatever you like to call them. They are below average on a good day. I'd love it if you had a district of your own, b/c anyone who chooses to live there obviously have zero personality. I guess as long as you can walk to Nordstrom to buy your Lacoste shirt, then you are set for live.
where does country club park/ wilshire park fall into its all mid wilshire. MTA breaks it down better. PLUS mid-town is mid town don't be afraid to come east of fairfax. mid-wilshire is a giant melting pot now embrace it don't be scared of different things.
park la brea should be included in fairfax, as it is much more like that neighborhood than like mid-wilshire. the boundary should extend south to sixth street.
I've lived north of Pico and east of Fairfax for years now, and I have to say, after perhaps Hauser, maybe Redondo, it's a completely different neighborhood. I don't even go east of Hauser unless I'm going downtown. Park La Brea should maybe be grouped with its neighbors to the north in Fairfax, as you called it. And their should be a separate neighborhood with the boundaries Pico, Fairfax, Wilshire, and La Brea.
Lived in Park La Break for 20 years (1990 to 2010). No question that Fairfax district should extend all the way south to Wilshire Blvd.
I agree with Nicks comment (6/3/9) South of La Brea and East of Pico, Pico being the predominant here, are vastly different from the one side to another. One simply has to stand on Pico and walk across the street from one side to another and see the VAST difference in housing and residents.
My area is the Pico Neighborhood Council area and the boundaries are west of La Brea, North of Venice, South of Olympic/San Vicente and east of La Cienega. Our site is www.piconc.com and often we are left out of being identified.
I cannot agree more that Park La Brea should be included in the Fairfax district, not Mid-Wilshre. It's pretty obvious if one visits all of these places.
In the 1000 block of South Orange Drive, a block south of Olympic and two blocks east of La Brea, we have an ongoing problem with a duplex that serves as a drug house with prostitution in units in the back as well as a duplex next to it that for months has been inhabited by almost a dozen squatters. Only through the initiative of our Neighborhood Watch captain has the city finally moved in and tried to shut down the illegal activity. Learn about it at Twitter.com/South_Orange_Dr
As a Park La Brea resident, I think that the northern most boundary of this neighborhood should be Wilshire Blvd straight across. Include Park La Brea with its neighbors to the north.
Park La Brea- Mid Wilshire-Larchmont Village etc. It all falls under the Los Angeles umbrella. A city that has invisible boundary lines- good ones and bad ones. Be grateful you have a roof over your head.
The Times also could leave its eastern boundary of the south-of-Olympic Mid-City at Crenshaw, adjacent to what you denominate Arlington Heights (and east of that, Harvard Heights), rather than move the Mid-City boundary to Western, as I suggested below and elsewhere. Country Club Park would stay within the map area where you place it now.
MIS-mapping by The Times of one part of Los Angeles naturally results in mis-mapping at least one neighboring part . . . such as Mid-Wilshire.
For your next revision, I refer Mapping LA’s editors to comments made previously (8-20-09) with respect to your most recent hypotheses of what parts of our town comprise “Koreatown,” Mid-City, and Fairfax. My previous suggestions for improvements to those three Times maps necessitate amendment to your MID-WILSHIRE boundaries as well.
Because of what (1) I assume to be your editors’ desires to end the seemingly never-ending entries in The Times’ “Corrections” box -- when the paper's writers and editors mis-locate Getty House in Hancock Park and not Windsor Square -- and (2) I imagine is your appropriate, if quixotic, attempt to deal with the overall misunderstanding of what IS “Hancock Park” (not everything between Beverly Hills and Downtown, as some real estate agents would want buyers to believe), you seem to have started this “Mapping LA” process for the “Central” part of our city with an attempt to define Hancock Park.
Your second iteration of the maps got it better than the first, and you “sort of” got the Hancock Park and Windsor Square boundaries right. BUT, in the process, you rather arbitrarily and inaccurately CARVED UP most of the long-standing, contiguous “Central” neighborhoods that have comprised MID-WILSHIRE almost forever.
To get the Times-scale boundaries that your mappers appear to need, how about revising the relevant four Times maps for this part of “Central” as follows (and as already has been noted in recent comments posted for the first three of these four maps)?
-- Fairfax / Mid-City West
Here’s what you need to do to achieve this solution:
First, DELETE Hancock Park, Larchmont, and Windsor Square as separate mapped areas in Mapping LA's "Central."
Second, CHANGE the "Fairfax" name to "Fairfax / Mid-City West" and have its boundaries be Fairfax, Willoughby/Romaine (as now), LaBrea, and Olympic.
Third, CHANGE the Mid-City boundaries to be: Robertson (etc., as now,) Olympic, Western, Santa Monica Freeway (etc., as now).
Fourth, CHANGE the “Koreatown” western boundary to be at Western Avenue.
And finally, to be consistent with the boundaries just listed (and to be accurate for all four maps at last):
CHANGE the Mid-Wilshire boundaries to be: LaBrea, Melrose, Western, and Olympic.
Then, the Mid-Wilshire sub-head / legend would properly read:
"This neighborhood includes Citrus Square, Hancock Park, Windsor Square, Larchmont, Larchmont Village, St. Andrews Square, Country Club Heights, Wilshire Park, Windsor Village, Fremont Place, Brookside, Sycamore Square, and Park Mile."
MIRACLE MILE IS FROM LA BREA TO FAIRFAX
AND IS NOT AS DIVERSE AS MANY MAY THINK
MOSTLY WHITE, JEW, KOREAN, AND A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF LATINOS AND AFRICAN AMERICAN, AND OTHERS, NO GREAT RESTAURANTS IN THE AREA YET WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CAMPANILES AND LUNA PARK. IF PROJECTED WELL, CAN BECOME A GREAT ENTERTAINMENT AREA IN THE FUTURE.
The Miracle Mile is less of a neighborhood and more of a borough comprised of 13 separate districts: Downtown Mile, Taste of the Mile, The Wig District, The Shipping and Pancake District, Grove, Near Grove, Grove Adjacent, Park La brea, The Tar Pits, Museum Row, Rug/Interior Town, South Mile and SOFUFLE (South On FairFax Up From Little Ethiopia).
If you want to get technical.
Ha ha. The new journalistic model: get your readers to create your (not very interesting) content for you about (not very interesting) topics.
In live in Connecticut, but when I tell people where in LA I am originally from, I have a long, awkward reply: "San Vicente and Cochran, which is west of Mid-City, East of the Fairfax District and South of the Wilshire District." Not even other Angelenos could tell me that I should simply say "Mid-Wilshire." Thanks!
So tiny Larchmont Village warrants its own neighborhood, but historic Miracle Mile gets lumped into "Mid-Wilshire"? Good thing you protected the delicate sensibilities of the Hancock Park folks, though--wouldn't want them to be smushed into the vague Mid-Wilshire designation after how much they spent on their houses.
I do think the Miracle Mile probably merits a separate community designation, but can well imagine that any boundary/name you come up with, will probably not be acceptable to a goodly amount of the people who populate that area. In the past the LA Times has been far off in designating events, describing for example something that happened on Western Avenue as being in West Los Angeles. Why not just give the nearest intersections when reporting events in news articles?
I'm glad to hear that the Wilshire Vista, Wilshire Vista Heights and other neighborhoods North of Pico are included in Mid-Wilshire. If nothing else, these neighborhoods have never really identified with Mid-City and, at best, were the outlying fringes of the Mid-City area.
LATimes barely rates a "close" on the Mid-Wilshire boundaries.
Unfortunately it's only what's to be expected in the Zell era. For all we know we have a bunch of Chicagoans doing the mapping, too.
Leave it to Wikipedia to get it right.
The Miracle Mile is in the Miracle Mile, not Mid Wilshire. How did you come up with this map? If you want to know about the rich history of the Miracle Mile go to the link below and check out the Video Tour and Historical photo's.
President, Miracle Mile Residential Association
I live in Park LaBrea and hardly ever go south of Wilshire....we are more related to Farmers Market and the Grove. We go to LACMA and also the 99cent store, but they are on the north side of Wilshire. I can't understand your divisions...although I would agree we live in "mid-Wilshire", I can't imagine not connecting to Farmers Market and the Grove.
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