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We have lived in the Silver Strand neighborhood across from the Marina and 2 blocks East of the Ocean for over 9 years. It is a wonderful neighborhood with all the amenities you could want and are surrounded by water, a great place to live!

— BD Smith
October 16, 2012 at 1:23 p.m.

This place is nice to visit. Not to live in. Too many drunks, drug addicts, bums, schizophrenics, prostitutes, homosexual men, and crime. I get paranoid when I see the police, because as a black man, I'm at risk for racial profiling.

— Joshua
August 3, 2012 at 9:47 p.m.

why is venice highschool not in venice?

— abc
February 12, 2012 at 2:13 a.m.

lived here for 20 years, still pretty cool...

— TEX
January 6, 2012 at 3:10 a.m.

the weather is perfect !

The coast is beautiful and Venice is nice place despite the burglaries and thefts

— mahina (france)
June 20, 2011 at 4:42 a.m.

I feel 4u Monique S. looks like venice has changed a lot with all the homeless and nutty people going down there to rase havic 4 people living over there "

— Rosehills 90032
May 31, 2011 at 6:32 p.m.

Up until 2 years ago I liked it in Venice.

My experience has changed since our truck was stolen last June with a flat bed tow truck. A list: numerous things stolen from my yard, people coming into our yard to sleep, we were home, mobile homes camping outside our home for the unsecured internet access, homeless coming into our yard to use our water ...we were home.. motorcycle cover stolen off of bike which was parked in yard 4 feet from our front door, we were home. someone coming onto our porch and behind our brick wall to steal cans... we were home etc... do you get the idea???

I see a lot of high fences going up... wish I could do the same. I am sooooo sick of people stealing anything that is not nailed down.

Oh and just this week we saw someone take off with a realtor sign. ? why? WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE???

My neighbors aren't the ones stealing... nice neighbors, yes,!!nice neighborhood? No.

ohhh and I forgot about the guy we caught pulling his pants down to crap in our yard. I was home, bf across the street talking to a great neighbor, saw our front yard.

Is there a neighborhood watch? I think I need one. I would be willing to learn how to do that and take turns.

We are getting robbed left and right. And summer is coming.... it's going to get worse...

oh and the fence getting tagged a month ago and our neighbor, nice guy, had his van tagged just this week. It has to stop!

Great neighbors... bad neighborhood. What a shame!!!

— Monique S.
May 20, 2011 at 1:21 a.m.

It took me a couple of years to "get" Venice. It's a place where different races and socio-economic levels, for the most part, get along. People are friendly and watch out for each other. It's walkable and it is a community. Although a part of the city of Los Angeles, residents here feel apart from the rest of the city. It's just different. It isn't for those who don't want to be see poverty or people of different races. It isn't for those who want to live in sterile apartment blocks, condominiums or neighborhoods where everyone looks and thinks the same as the people next door. Like I said, it took me a couple of years to understand Venice. But, now that I do, I cannot see living anywhere else in Los Angeles, and I say that after living in Hollywood, West Hollywood, Los Feliz and Long Beach.

— Dav id
December 22, 2010 at 1:57 p.m.

Venice has got to be the main center of the Westside for gang activity.

— Westside visiter
December 7, 2010 at 3:47 a.m.

When they built the post office on Jefferson they took everything south of Washington and made it 90292.

Everything north of Washington is 90291.

They did this because of over building. Hence the traffic all year long. The worst is the summers. People visit and think they can do anything they want to. Throw their trash,dirty diapers, and beer bottles everywhere.The young punk criminal transients and vehicle dwellers have taken over the beach while emptying their human waste on our streets . The worst part of living in Venice is the politics. Rosendahl and Bonin make the mafia look like boy scouts.

Thank you L.A.P.D. for all your hard work in spite of people like Rosendahl, Bonin, linda Lucks and Peggy Kennedy.

— Boston Dawna
November 6, 2010 at 9:44 p.m.

I lived in West Hollywood for 18 years and knew one neighbor to talk to. Have lived in Venice for 15 years, walked the lovely, sometimes challenging streets with my dogs, and just today felt so grateful to have a neighborhood and wonderful, colorful, kind people to call friends here. It's still a kind of paradise.

— khj
October 3, 2010 at 9:45 a.m.

i have lived in the same house for more than 40 years and last year thought about moving to be closer to our grandkids who live in the valley. while i of course love them more then i can say , i am glad we did not move and remained in venice. while we over the years have had our share of problems with crime and thing that every neighborhood has everything else about venice far has made it a great place to live. it is old and not as new as newer cities i have made it my home for 55 of my 68 years. location to downtown centers and the weather make it so. worst about this part of westside of course, the traffic and gangs, although they have been quiet for sometime. all in all wouldnt move ever.

— richard e
October 1, 2010 at 12:26 p.m.

I have lived in Venice since the early 80's the changes are good ones. We don't have people shooting each other everyday. The RV's are the only negative left.

— cb
September 30, 2010 at 4:43 p.m.

I promised myself that I would move to Venice in the future. I guess I'll have to think again because there's a lot of home invasions in Venice.

— lafan
August 10, 2010 at 11:38 p.m.

The neighborhood is going to the dogs...this is becoming the dumping ground for every smelly crack smoking RV dweller in the city...it used to be nice, now it's an RV ghetto and getting worse every day. The weekends are hell with the inner city loud mouths who can't seem to hear their own car stereos.

— liveright
August 10, 2010 at 3:15 p.m.

I'm a New Jersey native who's been bouncing between the east coast and SFV for a couple years, and Venice is the shining light that makes this sometimes disheartening city enjoyable. I started volunteering at Beyond Baroque Literary Center (681 Venice Blvd.) in October 2008 and found it to be joyous and unique place, a figurehead of the literary arts in LA, as well as a kickass community of writers and literature lovers.

I love the architecture, all the brightly colored homes and businesses, lots of old-school homes thankfully still standing and giving Venice some great character in the face of gentrification. The beach and walk are great, especially in the off season when it's more relaxed and quiet. Had the pleasure of meeting The Chief recently, a very wise and holy homeless man. I find the crusade against the homeless to be a rather disheartening product of gentrification: people with money and a choice of where to live demonizing those that have very few choices. Regardless, Venice is the best place in LA. Without it, I'd surely not choose to live here.

— Marko
August 1, 2010 at 5:03 a.m.

Love the mix of people, the community. I'm in the oxford triangle part and we are VENICE not MDR. Thx you LA Times for the truth.

— Merre
June 7, 2010 at 5:51 p.m.

Early morning squawks of green parrots, King Fishers nesting in trees, mama & baby ducks nuzzling grass, the occasional homeless crazy, steel and glass McHouses, my little 50s cottage surrounded by tropical greenery, the slap-slap of ocean, Abbott Kinney alive with beautiful people, press of sunburnt tourists on week-ends, families everywhere, many languages spoken, muscleheads at Gold's where the smell of sweat and vanity are a fine "perfume". My Venice -- its drawbacks as well as its attributes -- are what make it unique in the world.

— Nika Cavat
June 5, 2010 at 7:09 a.m.

Venice for us was 12 yrs of playtime a block from the beach/boardwalk at Brooks btwn Pacific/Brooks..the walkstreets. Had an unbelievable townhouse, rented to us way underpriced, because the owner didn't want us to leave. We had a carport with FOUR parking spots! (unheard of)...Cute as a bug terrace/patio-yard. Left to move to care for a close friend critically injured...was worth it. We'll get back there one day. Love love love Abbott Kinney...although Main used to be my hangout...Merlin McFly's? The "Oarhouse"/Buffalo Chips? Remember anyone? AnnetteG

— AnnetteG
May 17, 2010 at 12:32 p.m.

When I lived in the 'Oxford Triangle' (or the area bounded by the old rail road tracks that used to run from downtown LA into downtown Venice, & Washington & Lincoln Blvds. We had the same zip code as MDR but the 'Oxford Triangle' was actually part of Los Angeles. Because it had the same zip code as MDR I thought it was part of the county and I remember crossing the RR tracks to go to the Fire House to vote on a rent control issue effecting the County & MDR & being told I live in Los Angeles and not MDR.

— tuan
January 27, 2010 at 5:02 a.m.

I was born and raised in MDR or in the 'Oxford Circle' as it now says! My mom still lives in the same house (which was the house my dad grew up in!)As a child, I enjoyed getting on my bike and riding on the bike trail (so sad to hear that the walk-through gate to MDR is getting closed...MY MOM TOLD ME THAT TOO! BUMMER!!) from Fisherman's Wharf to Santa Monica Pier-that seemed to be our boundaries. Loved rollerskating on the boardwalk, just walking the boardwalk and watching my brother surf the jetty. Now you can't even turn left onto my mom's street without it being extremely busy!! Attended Couer D'lene, MDR Jr. High and Venice High-spent some years at Santa Monica College as well. I currently live out of the country but can't wait to come visit. The great thing is how close my mom lives to the beach, so we can walk and my children can see where I grew up. If you can afford the 'Westside', then you can enjoy it, but if you can't...it's a great place to visit!!

— SR
January 22, 2010 at 4:31 a.m.

Great memories of living in Venice; first in a 100-year old farmhouse on Brooks & 6th where i planted grapevines to camouflage the ugly cyclone fence. Best lemons i've ever had from the tree in the yard. Some people called it 'Ghost Town'--there was a huge gang problem, esp. when immigration peaked in the mid-90's. Favorite walks were down Westminster to Main (Abbott Kinney) then to the beach, or down Rose to the grungy little food "co-op" and to Main St., S.M. Could walk everywhere. Pic'NSave on corner of Rose & Lincoln was a jewel. Nothing like it. Found Salvador Dali perfume bottles there once! The old Muscle Beach, festivals with the band, Venice, rollerbladers in satin shorts pumping to funk, the guy with the diaper on his head before he charged for pics, and the appearance of rabid cholos. The weird clown with the Tutu appearing one day at the end of Rose Ave. AA meetings , theater & poetry at the old Venice city hall. Lifeguard stations at dawn...the year the beach art went up, and more. Great memories.

— Tara
January 21, 2010 at 12:10 a.m.

VENICE IS A COOL PLACE TO LIVE, 45 YRS. UNDER MY BELT. NO PLANS TO MOVE. I REMEMBER THE GOOD OLD DAYS WHEN YOU COULD WALK ACROSS LINCOLN BLVD. ON A SUNDAY A.M. BLINDFOLDED AND NOT GET HIT BY A CAR.....THOSE DAYS ARE LONG GONE!! YOU CANT RISK CROSSING IN A CROSSWALK, SOME DAMN YUPPY DRINKING COFFEE, TALKING ON A CELL PHONE WILL KILL YOU....I MISS THE GOOD OLD DAYS....

— D.K.
December 31, 2009 at 11:47 p.m.

I AM A 33 YEAR OLD "BLACK MAN" I AM BORN AN RAISED IN VENICE DO TO STEREO TYPING BY LAPD, & THE RAISE OF THE COST OF LIVING DOWN THERE I MOVED AWAY BUT STILL VISIT QUITE OFTEN AN MY CHILDREN ARE INVOLVED IN ALL THE SPORTS PROGRAMS. IT A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE AN RAISE KIDS THE SCHOOLS ARE GREAT AN THE COMMUNITY IS VERY FAMILY ORIENTED. YOU COULD NEVER APPRECIATE VENICE UNTIL YOU'VE ACTUALLY LIVED THERE..

— stan
December 29, 2009 at 8:10 a.m.

Glad to see the Oxford Triangle was finally added! I feel validated.

Whenever I try to explain why it is in Venice it becomes immediately clear that I care way too much about that little nuance.

Regardless whether it's MDR or Venice it is a wonderful little nook...so sad to hear that the walk-through gate to MDR is getting closed...

— RW
December 6, 2009 at 4:34 p.m.

I've lived in Venice for 10 years and I am spending my time trying to figure out how to move away from here.

Venice is a great place to visit but not such a great place to live. $2+M houses next to shanties. It's a bad mix. Venice gets the noise and exhaust from the Santa Monica airport and none of the money that airport generates. Venice has methadone clinics, homeless outreach and feeding and liquor stores galore.

The wealthy folks of Santa Monica, Brentwood and Marina del Rey want Venice to stay the dumping grounds of the RV dwellers and homeless because they don't want those folks and the agencies who service them in their neighborhoods.

Councilman Rosendahl is intent on creating RV ghettos in Venice to make this city even more dangerous. It's a depressing and filthy place to live every day.

— OVenice
November 29, 2009 at 11:33 a.m.

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— E Albert
November 18, 2009 at 9:40 p.m.

I really enjoyed Venice area in the late sixties - sunshine acid anyone?

But haven't been there since I became a dd in Canada in '67

— Uncle Mick
November 13, 2009 at 6:37 p.m.

I'm seriously thinking of moving back. It's the one place I really feel at home. It's beautiful, relaxing and hippie. For me it's not about the craziness on the boardwalk. You don't have to hang out there if you don't want to. That's just a show for tourists. For me Venice is about the people that live there. All the unique spaces people have. I can't think of a place that has a better mix of beach, hippies, artists, musicians, actors, whatever... Just put a little Nick Drake on the head phones and take a walk through the canals. How could you not love this place?

— Ben
November 13, 2009 at 7:38 a.m.

The post office created lots of confusion when it included the Venice Peninsula and Oxford Triangle in 90292. City of L.A. added to it by replacing the Venice sign with an MdR Peninsula sign. How can we get the P.O. to keep Venice all one zip, or at least a 2nd zip of its own? Venice is shrinking: Glyndon, south of Wash. was the Venice manufacturing dist. and Playa del Rey (below the bluffs) was part of old Venice. Their street signs still reflect this. The only way to completely clarify Venice boundaries is to restore cityhood.

— Jim Smith
November 10, 2009 at 5:38 p.m.

I am finally moving back after being away for 9 years, it seems a lifetime ago. I actually missed all the helicopter noise and the very interesting and complex dealers of oakwood park, wicked street smarts! I left my doors unlocked the whole time I lived on oakwood and never closed my back door, funny enough the only people who entered my home uninvited were the cops looking for a kid, my dog took care of them:) I hope all the white money hasn't ruined the core spirit of my home because that would be a crime! See you next week freaks:)!

— richard
November 10, 2009 at 3:44 p.m.

I moved into Venice in the late 60's when people told me I was crazy to move into a high crime, drug infested area. But, I'm from the Bronx and living at the beach and driving 10 minutes to work was the end game. I never had a bad moment in Venice where the ocean seems to mellow most people out. I got into Venice early and cheap. Today, I could not afford to be here. They will carry my wife and me out feet first, we ain't leaving!

— Eppy27
October 8, 2009 at 5:52 a.m.

Is every map by the LA Times as inaccurate as this one? The Marina Peninsula is in Marina del Rey and carries a 90292 zip code. The Oxford Triangle is also MDR.

Is this willful ignorance or just laziness? Oh, right, it's the LA Times!

— TBK
September 23, 2009 at 12:23 p.m.

Venice is a great place. I live in the UK and visit every year for the last 12 years, had the pleasure of showing my G/F and her son round Venice a couple of years ago. I just love the laid back feeling you get down at the beach.

I will someday move to Venice Beach and see out the rest of my days walking the beach and thinking how lucky I am to be there.

— Michael Whitehouse
September 11, 2009 at 3:07 a.m.

I grew up in Santa Monica in the 1960-1970s' when I moved out I lived at the beach in Venice when I was 18yrs old ~26yrs old. I body surfed almost every day and rode my bicycle. I lived on Wavecrest, Clubhouse and later Brooks Ave on the walk streets between Speedway and Pacific Ave. Now married w/children in the SFV - but would live to be able to afford to return to Venice.

— John B
September 4, 2009 at 3:36 p.m.

My 20 year old daughter, junior in college, just moved to Venice with a roommate....already got towed twice in 2 weeks! But she loves it otherwise as long as she stays off the beach at night, or so she says.....

— Jorge
August 31, 2009 at 3:57 p.m.

Be sure to check our map of Venice:

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Come out a support independent film at the Other Venice Film Festival.

— Jody
August 24, 2009 at 3:31 p.m.

VENICE BEACH IS WORTH TRAVELING ACROSS AMERICA TO VISIT.THATS NOT TO SPEAK OF THE CANALS AND FRIENDLY FOLKS WHO LIVE JUST A FEW BLOCKS FROM THE BEACH.SOME CELEBS LIVE ON THE CANALS AND A FEW SHOW BUSINESS PEOPLE ALSO LIVE THERE.GREAT EATING PLACES NEARBY, AND PLENTY OF LITTLE BRIGES TO ALLOW ONE TOLOOK AT THE LITTLE BOATS PASSING BELOW.

— TOM
August 21, 2009 at 11:04 a.m.

I lived in Venice almost 4 years. I really like the area and my neighbors are great. The arts, shops and cafes, many with healthy foods, are great. A fantastic walking neighborhood. I've found it "sensibly safe", e.g. use some common sense and you'll be fine.

The street people and mentally ill are absolutely not "invisible" here and there are not a lot of parks, besides the beach itself. The 'burbs it isn't. I am middle age with no small kids, so its great, but it might not suit many families expectations for a place this expensive.

— Westside Steve
August 21, 2009 at 10:24 a.m.

James, has everything really calmed in Oakwood? Is gentrification a bad thing? Is it possible for black folks to move west of Main Street without any trouble?

— Venice Fan
August 18, 2009 at 11:43 p.m.

That panhandle portion south of Washington isn't Venice, at least not according to the blue LA District sign that says 'Marina Penninsula' as you enter.

— Chris Bucka
August 18, 2009 at 4:53 p.m.

I was raised in Venice "Sho-Line"! It is not what it used to be but it is for the best. My Family owns alot of property down here and now we can get better rent for the many units that we own. By the way, not all the Black Folks in Venice sell or do drugs most are working class people. The Gangs and the race wars moved everyone out and the White Folkes moved in.

— james
August 18, 2009 at 12:04 p.m.

Positives; Great walk street, diversity of community, Hal's, Abbot Kinney, Canals, sun shine, great friends, ART, music.

Negatives, we can do without people who live in motor homes who are filthy pigs (why should dirt and filth be part of poverty?) drug dealers on street corners, on occasion, as it is nothing like what it use to be, massive crowds on first Friday when rowdy and rude (most of these people are not from the community BTW)

— Ingrid
August 15, 2009 at 12:20 p.m.

My home for the first 43 years of my life ( since 1954) Great memories of the Gas house, trams along the Beach front. I also remember old Venice Pier before POP ( pacific ocean park) I still like to visit on occasion . Go Gondos!

— Arnie Simon
August 14, 2009 at 12:45 a.m.

Sorry Oxford Trianglers. You are in the Marina. Be proud. Your address is Marina Del Rey. It says so on your mail.

— Jason
August 13, 2009 at 7:55 a.m.

Hippy vibe but also crime. lots of transients, homeless, people living in RV's (i used to buy pot from a lady that lived on a bus there) Nice to visit but not to live, too much crime and hassle on the streets(got a cigarette? got a dollar? where you from? ect ect ect)

— Dave
August 12, 2009 at 11:05 p.m.

Venice is the place. It has a lot of interracial couples. I can't wait to move there.

— Venice Fan
June 8, 2009 at 7:08 p.m.

Venice is part of an amusement zone, a shared resource, a livable zone of culture and transience. It is still possible to see the horizon and on good days.

— Kelyn Roberts
June 3, 2009 at 1:15 p.m.

Yeah, update the boundary. Oxford triangle is in Venice. Not Del Rey or marina del rey. We are part of the Venice neighborhood community council. North of admiralty, south of wash, west of lincoln. Update please.

— Janae
June 3, 2009 at 12:52 p.m.

Your Venice map is not complete as a result of understandable confusion about boundaries.

Venice, a Westside/LA City neighborhood, has been around for over a century. Unincorporated Marina del Rey was dredged/created during the 1960s. During the 1980s, the old Venice Zip Code, 90291, was split. Most of Marina del Rey is covered by 90292. But the portion of Venice that is south of Washington was redesignated 90292.

Since then, the Oxford Triangle neighborhood [aka the Golden Triangle] can be called either Venice or Marina del Rey. The Oxford Triangle is a neighborhood of some 360 single-family homes [like Venice but unlike MdR] south of Washington and west of Lincoln. We remain a part of Venice and the City of LA even though we are included in the MdR Zip Code.

Please adjust your maps and counts to include us in Venice and the City where we belong.

— Steve Freedman
June 3, 2009 at 8:25 a.m.

Home for 25 years.

Walkstreets just west of Lincoln Blvd.

Nice people make it a good place to live.

Human waste from old RV's make it smell bad some days.

How many gay/lesbians are here.

— Mike Albanese
June 2, 2009 at 10:12 p.m.

Venice

is a neighborhood in the city of Los Angeles in the Westside region of Los Angeles County.
The neighboring communities are Culver City, Del Rey, Marina del Rey, Mar Vista, Playa del Rey and Santa Monica.
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